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30 October 2025

Curate People

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Frameworks in this episode

Leadership7 steps

Curate People: Geniuses Only

Hire for capability, never for slots, and treat any compromise on talent as an attack.

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Peak Performance7 steps

Iterations Over Hours

Mastery comes from completed learning loops, not from accumulated time on task.

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Innovation6 steps

Opinionated Simplicity

Remove every choice you can; each user decision is an abdication of your judgement.

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Entrepreneurship7 steps

Sourcing Undiscovered Talent

Find great people before the market prices them, then earn the intro with real work.

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Leadership6 steps

The Four Non-Delegables

Delegate everything except recruiting, fundraising, strategy, and product vision.

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Leadership6 steps

The New Knowledge Test

Screen candidates on whether they generate original ideas, not on credentials.

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Leadership5 steps

The Random Interview Test

Let a candidate interview any teammate at random and judge whether they would still join.

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Productivity6 steps

Unscale the Team

Raise the cost of interrupting people so a small team can do deep creative work.

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Insights & moments

The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster

Burnout is usually a signal you want to quit, not that you need a break

The claim that a month or two off will fix burnout is largely rejected. Burnout is read as a sign that the work either is not working or is not fundamentally enjoyable, and time off does not change either. Genuinely enjoyable work tends to generate more energy and motivation rather than draining it. The acknowledged exception is a deliberately punishing culture of death marches and late-night staff meetings, but even there time off does not help because the same workload resumes on return.

  • Burnout usually points at the work itself, not at hours accumulated
  • Time off does not fix a fundamental mismatch
  • Work you genuinely enjoy tends to return energy rather than deplete it
  • In extreme cultures, burnout is really a statement that the workload is unsustainable

“Usually burnout is a sign you're working on something that either isn't working or you don't enjoy the work fundamentally.”

“So generally, when someone says, I'm burned out, I just read that as I want to quit.”

#burnout#motivation#work

Hot Take· 5

Hot Take

You cannot actually hire people better than you

The standard advice to hire people better than yourself is rejected here. Early on, the only thing a founder brings to a startup is themselves, so people materially better than you will not stay long. The founder's own quality as a recruiter and as a contributor is therefore a hard cap on who the company can attract, which is exactly why good early-stage investors judge the founding team so heavily.

  • The founder's quality is a cap on everyone they can bring in
  • People better than you will not work for you for long at the early stage
  • This changes later once there is a large enterprise, network effects, and a great product
  • Recruiting great people is the clearest available demonstration of how good you are

“You're never going to be able to hire anybody who's better than you are.”

“People who are better than you don't want to work for you for long.”

#recruiting#founders#hiring
Hot Take

Every great hire required breaking a core rule of recruiting

In the most recent company described here, every single hire required breaking some core rule of recruiting: objections about commuting, having a child, affording to exercise options, or being at a university. Founders can break rules on the cap table, stock structure, salary, start date, hours, location, title, reporting lines, and scope, because the best people are not cogs that fit neatly into a slot. This is another reason recruiting cannot be outsourced: an outside recruiter does not know which rules they are allowed to break.

  • Commuting, childcare, option affordability, and university commitments are all negotiable objections
  • Cap table, comp structure, start date, hours, location, title, and reporting are all levers
  • Recruiters and HR do not know which rules they may break, so they break none
  • The 2025 market for top engineers makes creative rule-breaking more necessary, not less

“Every single hire, we had to break some core rule of recruiting.”

“You're gonna have to break rules to get the best people because the best people are not cogs in a machine.”

#recruiting#negotiation#hiring#talent market
Hot Take

Early teams look like cults, and mixing too many types averages them out

Humans are social animals, so mixing very different kinds of people in one room shifts the level of conversation toward safe common topics like travel and food. For an early-stage company that means a regression to the mean, which is why early teams look like cults: monomaniacal, weird, and weird in a similar way. An unnamed founder's old Quora thread is cited arguing that early-stage companies want a monoculture of shared beliefs, because argument time is a luxury a startup does not have.

  • Mixed groups drift to non-threatening common topics
  • Blending too many types produces a bland average, not a strong culture
  • Early teams are monomaniacal and similarly weird by design
  • Shared premises reserve argument for the few things that move the business

“Early teams do look like cults. They are monomaniacal. They are weird, but they're all kind of weird in a similar way.”

“You want a monoculture of people who all believe the same things.”

#culture#early team#hiring
Hot Take

Never hire a marketer with no evidence of marketing themselves

A stated pet peeve is hiring marketing and PR people who show no evidence of being able to market themselves. Anyone hired to run social media should already have a great account of their own and be playing that game at the top level. The corollary is uncomfortable: the very best social media people are largely unhireable, so you either find them raw when their accounts are small, or you contract with them knowing they will only briefly rent you their channel rather than hand it over.

  • Demand self-evidence: a social media hire should already run a top-tier account
  • The best distribution people build a channel around themselves and will not hand it over
  • Catch them early when the account is small and up and coming, or rent the channel
  • Makers have taste in makers, so like recognises like across every craft

“one of my pet peeves is hiring marketing and PR people who have no evidence of being able to market themselves”

“I'm never gonna hire a marketing person who can't outright me.”

#marketing#hiring#social media
Hot Take

Extreme taste in people, products, and even investors

The best founders are described as extremely judgy, with extreme taste in both people and products, and that taste is domain-specific across a founding team: one has extreme taste about builders, another about marketers, sellers, and copywriting. The most pointed example is investors: a refusal to take money from any VC, on the grounds that most are money managers pushing money around who take credit for other people's work and would not offer board advice he has not already heard. Being told to build consensus and gather feedback is read as an implication that you are weak.

  • Founders should be opinionated to the point of being nearly dictatorial
  • Consensus-driven is often an external image founders project rather than how they operate
  • Taste is domain-specific and distributed across the founding team
  • The catch is that bad founders are highly opinionated too

“I won't take money from any VC. I don't respect most VCs.”

“Anyone who tells you to listen to others and build consensus and gather feedback is implying that you're weak.”

#taste#venture capital#founders#decision making

Explainer· 5

Explainer

Why raising through a banker starts you off on the wrong foot

Fundraising cannot be handed to a proxy because investors are explicitly betting on the founder, not on the deck. If someone else runs the raise, that person is effectively running the company in the investor's eyes. Later rounds reaching capital outside the normal venture market are a genuine exception, but at the early stage engaging a banker is a symptom of a deeper problem.

  • Investors are buying the founder, so a proxy fundraiser is a negative signal
  • Good investors will not back a company with a proxy raiser
  • Later-stage rounds outside the venture market are the legitimate exception
  • Wanting a banker early usually points at a weakness elsewhere in the company

“you can't outsource fundraising because investors are betting on you”

“companies that raise money through bankers are always starting off on the wrong foot”

#fundraising#founders#venture capital
Explainer

Primus inter pares: how a team of generalists still makes decisions

Great teams are made of multidisciplinary people who are each capable of many jobs but have extreme taste and judgement in a particular domain. The Latin phrase primus inter pares, first among equals, describes the operating structure: everyone is a peer, and in each domain the peers recognise whoever has the deepest taste and confer decision rights on them. One person leads on naming and branding, another on industrial design, another on electrical or software engineering.

  • Great people temporarily wear an identity like engineer or marketer but are capable of much more
  • Specialisation is a choice, and their input remains valuable outside it
  • Peers must be smart enough to recognise where someone else has the taste
  • Decision rights are conferred by recognition, not by org chart

“My co-founder has a phrase he likes to use from Latin, primus interparis, first among equals”

“But the great people are capable of anything.”

#team structure#decision making#generalists
Explainer

Every great engineer is also an artist

Art is defined broadly here as anything done for its own sake, done as well as possible, that creates beauty or strong emotion. Many great engineers are introverts who express themselves through their craft rather than directly, which is why in the company described at least half the engineers have serious side artwork, from elegant mathematical proofs to sculpture, clothing, doorknobs, water bottles, and music videos. Better engineers also tend to experiment more with AI art tools than self-identified artists, who feel threatened by them.

  • Art is anything done for its own sake and done as well as one possibly can
  • Introverted builders express themselves through their craft instead of directly
  • Engineering turns ideas into things that work while still being beautiful
  • People without an artist identity treat AI art tools as tools rather than threats

“My definition of art is much broader than a conventional definition.”

“In my current company, at least half the engineers have serious artwork they've done on the side, world-class artwork.”

#engineering#art#creativity#hiring signals
Explainer

Why your scaling org starts refusing to try things

Once a company passes roughly twenty to fifty people, hires arrive from larger companies where they had well-defined jobs, got credit for their work, and only had to impress a manager. What they want is for their work not to be thrown away, so the recurring objection becomes that an idea probably will not work. The founder's job is to power through, set the organisational capacity honestly, and make people comfortable that most of their output is experimentation that will be discarded.

  • Founders generate more ideas than the organisation can execute
  • The principal agent problem makes new hires protect their work instead of testing it
  • Nine out of ten ideas are half baked, and that is what a search process looks like
  • Get people comfortable with repeated small failure as long as insights are distilled

“Remember, all new information starts as misinformation.”

“The side effect that you have to be willing to tolerate is that great teams are throwing away most of their work.”

#scaling#experimentation#management#culture
Explainer

Fun means you are learning at the edge of your capability

Citing David Deutsch, fun is reframed as a diagnostic: when you are having fun you are learning at the edge of your capability to learn. If it is not fun, you are not getting anything new. If it is anxiety inducing, it is beyond your current capability. Operating at that edge is flow, stressful enough to be interesting but not enough to be anxious, and it may not feel fun moment to moment while still being fun looking back week to week.

  • No fun means no learning; anxiety means you are past your capability
  • The edge of capability is where flow lives
  • Fun is a longer-horizon measure than moment-to-moment enjoyment
  • The criterion applies to jobs and businesses, not just hobbies

“David Deutsch would say something like, when you're having fun, you're learning at the edge of your capability to learn.”

“What else would you rather be doing than practicing your craft at the highest level of capability at your edge?”

#learning#flow#motivation

Story· 3

Story

Turning the ground floor into Founders Cafe

One creative sourcing move was converting the first floor of the building into a cafe called Founders Cafe, producing a constant stream of one and two person companies trying to get started. Many of those companies will not work out, which creates the opportunity to recruit their people later. The stated caveat is that you should open such a place because you genuinely like being around founders, not as a recruiting funnel, because the authentic version works better.

  • A physical surface generates continuous exposure to early founders
  • Failed micro-companies become a recruiting pool
  • No recruiter would ever propose an idea like this
  • Doing it for its own sake makes it genuine and therefore more effective

“One thing Angelus has done to be creative in sourcing is to turn our first floor into a cafe. It's called Founders Cafe.”

“you should open a cafe like that, not because you want to recruit people, but just because you like hanging around founders”

#sourcing#recruiting#community
Story

The AirPods case for industrial design as the highest art form

Asked to name the best art form, the co-founder referenced here picks industrial design, and AirPods are the worked example. They are sculpted aerodynamically to fit the human ear while remaining mass-manufacturable to a price point and spec, they click satisfyingly into magnetic rests, they pioneered the charging case with find-my built in, and they carry spare batteries and replaceable tips. The curves are G3 curves, hand sculpted and then scanned in because computers cannot generate them.

  • The design satisfies aesthetics, ergonomics, manufacturability, and price simultaneously
  • G3 curves are hand sculpted then scanned rather than computer generated
  • People intrinsically feel the care that went in, which drives preference for Apple products
  • Apple is admired by other founders because it was built by engineer artists

“That is a marvel of art and engineering.”

“those are G3 curves. Those are hand sculpted and then scanned in. Computers can't generate those.”

#design#apple#craft#product
Story

Great people physically cannot 80 percent something

Obsessive quality shows up as an inability to do partial work. Designers at the company redesigned a new office nobody asked them to design, and when asked for a book to collect checkpoints they designed their own binding and sourced their own printer and special paper. The same compulsion appears in a great engineer who will not write shoddy code and in deleting tweets with ten thousand likes over a spelling error or a better formulation, losing all the virality and not caring.

  • Obsessives redesign things nobody assigned to them
  • A truly great engineer will not ship something shoddy even under time pressure
  • Correctness of the work is valued over its popularity
  • This compulsion is a hiring signal, not an inefficiency

“They're obsessive. They can't 80% design something.”

“I will delete tweets that have 10,000 likes on them because I catch a grammar or spelling error”

#craft#quality#hiring signals#obsession

Takeaway· 2

Takeaway

Zone of genius, unfixable motivation, and why not firing is delusion

Everyone is held to have a zone of genius, so the hiring target is people who have already found theirs or have the slope to find it while working with you. Environment often explains failure, which is why an investor who let someone go can still recognise their zone and offer to back them later. What cannot be fixed is motivation: if someone will not apply themselves fully, you have to cut them off. Separately, you will often meet the right person at the wrong time, when health, home, or life problems make the level you need impossible.

  • Look for people already in their zone of genius or with the slope to reach it
  • People frequently just need the right environment
  • Motivation is the one input that cannot be repaired
  • Right person at the wrong time is common and still disqualifying
  • If you are not firing at all, you are deluding yourself about your hit rate

“The thing you can't fix is motivation.”

“If you're not firing, it means that you're deluding yourself.”

#firing#motivation#talent#leadership
Takeaway

High agency people solve the problem you could not have imagined

Weak performers do the task and hand back work you then have to check. The best people come back with something you could never have come up with or imagined yourself. Getting that requires communicating what needs doing and then motivating them, not with rah-rah, but by transferring the insight into why it matters, and being open to being talked out of it if you were wrong. Related: a disingenuous person latches onto your exact words, while a highly intelligent one answers the question you actually meant to ask.

  • Poor performers produce work that needs checking; great ones produce work you could not have conceived
  • Communication is a management act; motivation is a leadership act
  • Transfer the insight behind the priority, and be willing to be talked out of it
  • Smart people answer the intended question, not the literal one

“It's high agency people, founder mode, whatever you want to call it, but it's people who take responsibility for doing the job the best way…”

“And a highly intelligent person will often answer the question, not that you asked, but the question you really wanted to ask or you meant…”

#agency#leadership#communication#founder mode